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A LOW STRESS FAIR
COST WAY
TO
GET A
GREAT
PHOTO
DIRECTORY for your Group or organization.
Having a Photo Directory is a great way to help people in
your organization get to know each other. But most people report negative
experiences with Photo Directories.
What’s
Wrong with the
way
Photo Directories are normally
put together?
#1.
High Pressure sales. The photographer only makes money if people buy
the enlargements. So the photographers are taught how to
play on peoples guilt and fears . They are trained to very carefully
make people buy the very expensive enlargements. And of course, they use the
standard “buy now, because in x days we dispose of all of the negatives.” From
my experience, the high pressure, guilt oriented sales pitch is the number one
reason that, once a photo directory is done in an organization, they
never want it done again.
#2.
Poses. Because the photographer
only makes money if people buy the enlargements, the poses and photos are done
for resale of enlargements. But when you take those kinds of photos and put
them into tiny little squares, they are of much less value in the photo
directory – the “official purpose” of the photos.
#3.
Tiny little squares. The smaller
the square, the harder it is to recognize someone … until you already know
them. And when you already know them, you don’t need the photo directory for
them! Having 12 or 16 on a page, especially when the pose is not a close up,
just doesn’t make sense.
#4.
Enlargement shenanigans. One trick
is to sell enlargements that are not “normal” sized. For example, instead of
selling true 8x10’s they will sell 7x11’s. This means your people have to buy
overpriced frames from the company that did the photo directory or the
overpriced pressure sales enlargements end up sitting in drawers.
#5.
Frame quality. And then, as several
people have told me – the frames aren’t even good quality frames. They are
expensive, poor quality frames.
#6.
Short life expectancy. A typical
directory is put together with staples in the spine, and it includes names,
addresses and phone numbers (the addresses & phone numbers may be on the
back pages.) This is great for the photographer, because the shorten the life
value of the photo directory so that you will hire them back to do it all over
again. And try asking “can you use the photos from the last time for most of
the people in the organization” don’t be surprised when you are told no, they
don’t keep the negatives. (Note: at least you know they were honest when they
said they were going to dispose of the negatives.) Their real reason (I know, I
have read the training materials) is that they will never make any money off of
old images, they can really only sell the new pictures.
Now, if reading this you say “That
wasn’t at all our experience, we loved the photographer who did it for us last
time” then you will want to rehire me<g> or the photographer that did it
for you last time. If not, please read on
to see how Peter does it.
What’s
Right about the way Peter puts the directory together?
Peter is a professional
photographer and has been for many years. In both of the Churches that Peter
attended over the past 35 years, photo directories were done, and the general
feeling in those Churches seemed to be that people hated the hi-pressure sales
of just good or mediocre product. Peter
understands what you hate and what you want from personal experience. As a
professional, Peter brings professional quality to the job. But professional
doesn’t mean just taking the best pictures for the job, it means doing the job
in a way that achieves the true objective of the
customer.
The true
customer objective in a photo directory is to have pictures that make
people recognizable, not to sell enlargements. And it doesn’t matter whether
the enlargements are reasonably priced or not – the goal is recognition not
artist value.
For photo directories, Peter specifically shoots the photographs to
achieve recognition – thereby achieving the highest value from the photo
directory.
As a result, Peter does’t even
try to sell your group members enlargements! So there is
no high pressure sales.
So do he do
ANY marketing? There may be a few people in your organization that
decide they would like to have a professional session done of their family at a
later date. To accommodate this possibility without Peter will, on the
registration table, leave out brochures and business cards so that,
if people want to learn more, they can. If he didn’t leave the
brochures out, people would be more likely to feel that they “should” ask him,
and he admits, he wouldn’t be disappointed if one or two families decided they
wanted a full family session. Since he doesn't use high pressure sales
ever, if they like what they see at the organization session, they’ll even
be happier if they want a private family session.
These brochures are left at the
registration table where a volunteer from your
organization is working. There will be none where Peter is working
and Peter requests that the registration table be visually separated from the
place where the photos are being taken (to make it easier to take the pictures
without distractions.). This means he has no way of knowing which people
take brochures, so there is no pressure
whatsoever. The volunteer from your organization will be instructed to
simply leave the brochures on the table, not hand them to people.
Note: if
you request, Peter will provide a person (at a reasonable cost) to
operate the registration table, but that person will be instructed to register
only, not “sell.”
A photo directory is a large cost
item. To give your organization the best long term value, the pages are put
into a clear covered duotang. Your members can add pages to their
directory with newcomers. And the photo directory does not include phone
numbers and addresses so it does not get out of date so quickly! A significant
reason normal photo directory photographers give you a stapled booklet with
addresses and phone numbers is so that you will bring them back as soon as
possible to do everything over again from scratch.
The pages Peter typically delivers
include, on the first page (visible through the clear cover of the duotang) a
picture of where your organization meets, it's own building if it has one, or
some other image that you feel is appropriate to refect your organization.
Next, there may be (your decision) one or more pictures of the organization
staff/leadership, typically 1 to 4 per page.
FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions
& some Questions you probably should ask.)
Q.
Will you (Peter) sell enlargements of the photos taken for the photo directory.
A. I'd prefer not to - remember,
they are taken for recognition not for artistic value. But yes, if
requested, I will. And, like all my enlargements, unless requested, the
enlargements will fit in standard frames that you can buy at places like
Wal-mart. As mentioned before, I never intentionally destroy negatives. This
means that, if the picture was "the last picture of the late Uncle
John" you can get reprints/enlargements even years from now.
Q. Can we save more money?
A. Yes, there are ways you can:
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You can provide a volunteer for the registration table.
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You can provide a volunteer to organize who is getting their picture at what
time.
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You can provide a volunteer to work on my computers choosing the correct photos
for each family.
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You can provide volunteer labor to “3 hole punch” the final papers and insert
them in the clear covered duotangs.
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I recommend going with 6 photos per page. But you can go with 8 or more per
page and save some costs. The smaller you get though, the harder it is to
recognize people. For comparison, the "professional" photo directories I have
seen typically use 16 per page. (These people make their money on the
enlargements and they "lose" money on the directories so they want the smallest
directory possible.)
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Go with Black & White rather than color.
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Give Black & White away for free, but sell the color ones.
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Pay in advance. I require 25% down with the order, but if you put the other 75%
down at the same time, I give a 2% discount on the full amount.
Q.
Do we have to do the photos at our building? Can we do them at your studio?
No to the 1st and Yes to the second and the price is the same. However, I
fully understand that most organizations will much prefer to have the photos
taken at their facility. Indeed, you will probably get more people to
participate if you do them at your building unless your building is rented and
not available during the week.
Q.
How much space do you require?
A. First I need space to take the
pictures, about 10’ by 15’ with access to 110V power. A little more space would
be convenient, and it can be done in less space if required. Second, a space
for the registration table – the table doesn’t need to be a big one. Finally, a
waiting area for about 4 families at a time for those times when there is a
little lineup. Setting up the waiting area and registration in your foyer, with
the photos taken in a room off the foyer is frequently an ideal setup.
Q.
How much time per family?
A. Allowing 5 minutes per family is
preferable, but if you have a lot of people and want to go as fast as possible,
3 minutes per family is achieveable.
Q. What do you expect from our organization other than space
mentioned above?
A.
Planning. To come up with the time that the pictures will be taken that
works for both your organization and my schedule.
Promotion. You need to let your people know when, where, why and how to sign
up. It is important to let them know how it is being done because otherwise
they may think this is going to be another high pressure sales pitch. I can
provide text to go into your newsletter to help alleviate this concern.
Payment. You
will be given an invoice that is to be paid 25% up front (to lock in your photo
dates.) 25% the day (or 1st day) that photos are being taken and 50%
on the day the photo directories (or if you are collating, the pages and
duotangs for the directories) are delivered to your organizations office.
Reminding. You
are requested to have someone phone each family the day before their session to
remind them of their time slot. Request that each family come 10 minutes before
their time slot to give them time to remove their coats, get their hair ready
and register.
Checking. When
the directory is ready, you will be provided with one copy to verify that
everything is correct. When you give the OK, the rest will be printed.
Although I
don’t require it, I strongly recommend you provide volunteers to do the setting
up of appointments and the registration on the day the photos are taken. This
will both save you money and add positively to the experience for your
congregation.
Q.
Can we sell the photo directories you provide us with?
A. Yes, but not during the photo
sessions. And I encourage you to give them away to newcomers so they have the
maximum value. If you wanted, to keep costs down, you could give the B&W
ones away free and charge an upgrade fee for those that want.
If you wanted to sell the upgrade, you could put a coupon in your
newsletter so you know how many you want in color/b&w by the time the
sessions are complete. I trust you understand that, since I want people to feel
no pressure to “buy” anything, I cannot allow “selling” the upgrade or
“selling” the books during the photo sessions (and that includes the person at
the registration table!)
Q.
If we have had the directory done by you before, can we reuse some/many of the
pictures?
A. Yes. I purposely keep all
previous photos, they are referenced by a number coding system so you can
easily pick the ones you want.
Q.
Can you scan our old directory and reuse the pictures from it?
A. Generally speaking, no. There
are several reasons. The first is legal and ethical: The photographer who took
the photos previously owns the copyright. You may not like that photographer
and feel his or her high pressure sales techniques were dishonest or rude, but
you will understand that it would be wrong to steal, even from someone you
don’t like. The second reason is that the photos in your current directory are
almost surely taken in the traditional way and are not designed for good
reproduction in a photo directory. However, if the photographer who took the
previous pictures will give you written permission to reuse them, then yes that
can be done.
Q.
We didn’t get enough copies/We ran out & have new attendees, can we order
more?
A. Yes. Minimum quantity 10, but
these can be some black & white and some color if you like. The cost is my
“cost per book” plus $10 shipping and handling. Payment due with order. Or, for
a little more, payment is due upon receipt. And if you call back a year or two
down the road the answer will still be the same.
Q.
What color should people wear? Should they dress casual or dress up.
A. Any color other than pure white. (A white shirt with suit jacket is fine.)
So are pastels and even off whites. It is up to you whether you want to
encourage people to dress up or come casual. In general, we recommend they
dress the way they come to meetings – since recognition is the key
purpose! Having someone do up their hair special and dress in clothing they’d
never wear to meetings may be fine for some photos, but not for a photo
directory.
Q.
Some of our members can’t come on the days we are taking the pictures,
for example, some are on business trips, others may be in the hospital. What
are the options:
A.
1. If they can provide a photo
(preferably with a light colored, uncluttered or best, white background), it
can be scanned. If the number of people doing this is less that 5%, there will
be no charge. If it is more than 5%, and I do the scanning, there will be a
charge. (But if someone in your congregation wants to scan them and email them
to me, there will be no extra charge.)
2.
They can come to my studio at a later date. If you have more than one, we will
work out a mutually acceptable time for everyone to come.
Want more information?
If after reading this, you would
like to get more information, references or a quote, please feel free to
contact me by your choice of methods: email, phone, fax, mail. If you want to
come to my studio in person, phone or email to arrange an appointment.
If you want a NO OBLIGATION
quote, please let me know:
- How many family units will there
be.
- How many staff photos will you
want.
- Are there any other special
photos/pages that you want included in the photos.
- Your Name and preferred method(s)
of contact (phone, email, fax, mail)
- Your organization’s name and
address
- Possible dates for taking the
pictures Typically I like to take one or more days in a row,
depending on how many photos need to be taken, starting at 1:00pm and
going as late as you think is appropriate for your congregation (8, 9 or 10pm
typically.) In figuring out my quote, I do take into consideration how many
hours are scheduled, but I don’t charge more for working late in the evening. I
charge slightly more for Friday evenings, Saturdays and Sunday afternoons (I am
not available Sunday mornings) as I like to keep these times available for my
family, and I normally take Sunday as my Sabbath. On Saturdays, I would
typically recommend we start somewhere between 8:00 and
9:00am.
The quote will give you prices
based on:
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6 and 8 pictures per page
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Black & White or Color
Peter Horwood
aka
Madman
Pierre
Photographer, Photos By
Madman, www.PhotosBy
Madman.com
Phone:
(403)226-0620
Fax:
(403)226-0699
Mailing/Courier Address:
RR2,
263235 Range
Road
12
Balzac,
AB,
T0M
0E0
CANADA
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